What happened to The Simpsons deleted onscreen footage?
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Moments before the dome seals Springfield for good, the "Just Stamp The Ticket" Guy attempts to leave Springfield via train, but an elderly ticket teller fails to stamp his ticket in time.
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And yea, I'm sure more of the masses are familiar with The Simpsons then people who aren't. Why cut it for some three year olds who will forget about this film soon after?
I've seen the deleted scenes from the movie on YouTube, and some were reasonable to delete, but some... would have made more sense to keep in.
It's same with how you could call South Park, The Four Friends... but It's South Park. Everyone is important.
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Are we ever gonna get to see those? What do you think? Are they saving them incase they ever make a second Simpsons film?
Oh yeah... I forgot about that.
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After Krusty Burger, Bart continues being jealous of the pig.
When the dome is being placed over the town, Disco Stu says, "Looks like Disco Stu is Disco Doomed!" A bystander says, "That was terrible!" and then gets crushed by the dome.
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There's quite a big possibility the cut stuff is better than majority of the actual film, since they removed alot of the meta stuff to make it appeal to audiences who aren't familiar with The Simpsons.
Another thing I want to add is; the idea of a dome covering the town is the perfect plot, because that means we're isolated from anything outside, meaning it's the perfect excuse to spend time seeing how recurring characters manage to deal with it. Sadly all they got were a few jokes every now and then, and Mr. Burns shutting off their power didn't matter in the slightest. They said it had to do with the "pacing" and in a way I can understand that, but still, I would've prefered a slow pacing. Hell, I even think the movie is kind of short, I'd love for it to be like 2 hours long lol.
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I love almost all of them besides the stuff with the pig and the clown poker game.
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And a whooole bunch of recurring characters. I would've been fine with it if they just had one line, but a lot of them have none. Edna, Willie, Sideshow Bob from the top of my head. I believe the only thing Skinner says is "archers!".
I think one of the biggest problems of the film, as stated above, is that it doesn't define The Simpsons enough. No scenes in Sector 7-G either.
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During the mob scene to kill the Simpsons family, Sideshow Bob was there and had a couple of lines.
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A lot of the stuff we didn't get sounds better than what we got. If the movie had most of the things listed there I would've been very satisfied with it. Only parts I didn't like was the hanging of Peter Griffin and Life in Hell rabbit appearance.
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Ted Kennedy visit: It's revealed Ted Kennedy is a relative of Mayor Quimby. On the way to visit him, Kennedy accidentally drives into Lake Springfield and mutates into a gelatinous blob.
And in general the Movie I think would have been better with this extra News report on the deterioration of Springfield.
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I think one of the biggest problems of the film, as stated above, is that it doesn't define The Simpsons enough. No scenes in Sector 7-G either.
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Bart in class/in the Principal's office (he could be there when the dome was being placed, which would also be an excuse to give Willie a line as all the kids rush outside)
And I really wanted to see Sideshow Bob, come on! Edna doesn't even have a line either. She would've if that Kwik-E-Mart scene wasn't deleted.
The best bet for a special edition would be a boutique publisher like Shout Factory that creates fan-catered releases filled with new bonuses.
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Obviously, they released a couple of scenes on the DVD, but they said they cut three hours of finished material.
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The movie kinda already is a long episode in some ways. Some parts succeed to make it feel cinematic. Some don't.
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This is The Simpsons though, I'm sure it would've been a box office hit no matter what. Besides, a couple of scenes at Moe's, the powerplant, Kwik-E-Mart or school wouldn't be a dealbreaker for non-Simpsons fans. Hell, they even felt the need to have Moe's sign say "Moe's bar" in case people who weren't fans didn't know what Moe's was :rolleyes:
In fact, I'm pretty sure Al Jean or someone said that they have (or had anyway) a "jokes" folder of lines that have been cut from scripts over the years, but they never use it for the episodes because someone can generally come up with something fresher and newer.
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The Krusty the Clown Show: The blackout affects The Krusty the Clown Show aswell. To prevent the kids from panicking, Krusty tries to cheer them up. He takes out a flashlight and holds it under his face, but holding it under his cadaverously pasty face just frightens them even more.
There were two scenes with Sideshow Bob.
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Alot of these sound like absolutely amazing scenes. I really think it would have given the movie a certain edge had they kept them in.
Cutting the first scene was a good idea to completely re-do Russ Cargill's character. This original version of this character and this scene was a bit dull.
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More scenes after the power outage, and since the town was cut from the outside world, soon alcohol and beer began to disappear in Springfield.
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In terms of a sequel, Al Jean has said that a sequel is still talked about, but he doesn't want to make another movie unless he believes it can be really great. (i.e: He doesn't want to cash-in and ruin the show he spent so much of his life doing.)
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I have never heard the Hutz scene though I love the idea of Hutz being included in the movie and nods to Troy McClure.
Elements of the fourth scene should have been left in as it explains how Homer got from the middle of Alaska to Springfield. They should probably have just cut the bit with the guy singing about his sausages as it just breaks the rhythm of the story.
It's par for the course with the Big Damn Movie approach (obligatory TV Tropes warning for that link). What a lot of people want is probably closer to a regular episode, only movie length, but the usual approach is to go for a bigger, far more epic plot that's way more dramatic and cinematic than usual. As such, a lot of the usual elements - locations, characters, jokes - that don't directly contribute to the story, or concern the main characters, are left on the cutting room floor (if indeed they're ever in the movie to begin with). It's a shame we couldn't have had a bit more of that stuff.
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Agreed, the movie was definitely cut short of secondary characters and recurring locations.
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Probably won't ever happen, but I'd love to see a Director's Cut, because this film really needs it.
Plus again, they gave lines to some other characters like Selma - which I think in the series' movie is a good idea to give lines to as many characters as possible.
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The third scene should have been left in too.
And to be honest, it displeases far more people than helps the case. The Simpsons might be called The Simpsons, but you might aswell have called the show Springfield, because that's what it really is.
I've heard of that Hutz scene and I honestly wish it would've stayed in. I've seen the scene on the season 5 DVD. Krusty being on Conan would be great as well. Kind of a reference to the fact that Conan actually worked on the show itself.
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Even if the Simpsons was in alaska, everyone else in town was stuck in the dome, meaning you can still have tons of scenes showing how they all cope with it. How is the school still run? Have the kids all started acting like savages etc?
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In my opinion, I think it's great that Al Jean is refusing to cash-in on this one. I think they have full intentions on making another movie, but haven't found an idea worthy of doing a movie about.
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The carnival / amusement park bit was much longer.
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I also agree that for a movie based on such a hugely popular show, they underutilized the concept and had far too few of the classic locations and scenes there on top of not giving a ton of the secondary characters anything to say and/or do. I think that adding in several of the deleted scenes with the other characters (in completed form) without having the film feel overstuffed or bloated could fix this somewhat.
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You can see from one of the articles that the season 26 episode where Kang and Kodos kidnap the Simpsons family to their home planet, was considered a movie idea a few years ago, and so was held back. I'm really glad they didn't go ahead and make a movie about this, because while this episode was a fun idea, I really don't like seeing Kang and Kodos outside of the non-canon THOH episodes. To make a movie on this would have been a waste.
I love the part where they throw the bomb out of the dome and it comes back, bouncing off on the edges and when they ride down the glass shards and come across alot of landmark locations from the show. That was perfect. More of the film should have had that kind of pace.
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The second scene shoulda been left in.
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Scenes after the lights go out in Springfield.
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if anyone cared about the simpsons movie maybe. But no one does so you're SOL
He could go on a pointless rant, and then pull the lever to shut down Springfield's electricity supply, then we get the scene with Apu, Hibbert and Wiggum.
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My guess is that the three hours of material was cut from an original script. I'm sure the jokes are kept somewhere, but I don't think they are holding them over to another movie. They'll want to come up with something fresh.
Some of those deleted scenes in the video Micheal linked to are wretched (that first one in particular, sheesh) but I quite liked one or two of them. The riot scenes especially, if refined and kept in, could've offered a lot of the quality character humour and interactions amongst the side characters that was sorely missing from the film.
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Another version of this includes, Bush knocking him out with a branch, and the line "Welcome to the executive branch!"
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The scene at the Kwik-e-Mart was funny. Also giving lines to other characters in the movie was a good idea. Krabappel, Apu and Otto don't get any lines in the Movie;
The movie is a decent flick, but it could have been worlds better than it was. If not brilliant, cause the dome plot and resolution is really great.
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It's been a while since I complained about this since I really don't care, nor do I read the NHC a lot in general, but I do wish sometimes people would stay off of threads instead of posting just to be negative and act smug about it. I would be all up for a special edition of the movie. And I do think the Kwik-E-Mart and DMV scene should've been kept, as for what was supposed to be the ULTIMATE Simpsons experience somehow lacked scenes inside recurring locations. They're only in Moe's once, and it was for some joke, and Homer wasn't even there. Without the deleted scenes, I'm pretty sure they weren't in the Kwik-E-Mart at all besides the opening. No scene inside the school involving Skinner, Edna, Willie or Chalmers either... No Krusty Studios as far as I remember. Just the church, Simpson house and then like, the exterior of the town + Alaska.
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Probably won't ever happen, but I'd love to see a Director's Cut, because this film really needs it.
Just a couple of things I thought the movie lacked;
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In a tent, Homer was playing poker against a clown and is thrown out after losing the game.
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The scene after the Simpsons get out of the dome originally had a scene featuring Bart and Flanders seperating. Bart shows his love in a disturbing manner - by rudely mooning Flanders at first, but then pressing his ass cheeks against the dome glass, leaving a heart shape after pulling them off and running away with his family. Sweet music "da da da da..." included.
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but it looks like the "He's got to get over his fear of coffins." got recycled into Funeral for a Fiend. Seems that the film had more unused guest star scenes than the Michael Jackson trial (seriously why bother calling up people like Larry King or Kobe Bryant if you're not going to use them, why bother bringing in Kobe Bryan at all when he had nothing to do with MJ)
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It can't be that hard for them, all of it's content that they made years ago (unless they've burned it all or something).
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And I can see why they cut the animals painting the doghouse form the final scene in the video. It just seems kinda pointless and awkwardly shoved into the movie sequence.
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There was a nude scene with Patty and Selma.
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Agreed, the movie was definitely cut short of secondary characters and recurring locations.
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Yeah, they really should release some more material they have. It would probably be stuff more tailored toward the dedicated fans too. But movies have to appeal to the masses to be the most successful, so it makes sense why they might have cut stuff that we would’ve liked to stay in. That’s my biggest gripe about the movie as well: It doesn’t have enough nods to the Simpsons enthusiasts. Still, it’s a classic movie.
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Apu did have lines in the movie, the scene where he, hibbert and wiggum plead with burns for electricity
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There were two scenes with Sideshow Bob.
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Originally, the film had countless musical numbers. It didn't even end up having one, I didn't like that.
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When Homer rides the motorcycle through Springfield and grabs the bomb to save the town, he was to meet Sideshow Bob along the way and exchange a quick conversation with him.
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The intro to the film was longer - Lisa plays the theme from Pirates of the Carribean on the sax, the cash register displays the budget of the movie when Maggie is scanned, the movie also originally had a couch gag, the Simpsons rush into the family room and discover Siskel & Ebert sitting on the couch, who give them two thumbs down.
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The thing is, majority of the deleted scenes were extremly meta. There even was a scene with Lionel Hutz, using audio from a deleted scene from "$pringfield".
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...which is really stupid considering it's The Simpsons Movie. This was something fans have been waiting for ages, so it should have been made for the fans only. Shame, really. It would have been a box office hit, no matter what.
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Yes, that's been my exact complaint for years. Lack of recurring characters and locations for something that's supposed to be the ultimate Simpsons episode.
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The lake had more scenes.
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Unless they release original copies of The Simpsons Movie scripts, I doubt we'll ever see that three hours of material. And even so, that's very unlikely as whenever they were working on the movie, all scripts were shredded after a read-through, in order to make sure word never got out about the movie.
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David Silverman says that it's in it's "very earliest stages," and that he would "love for there to be another movie."
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The Simpsons look into a "Freak Show" funhouse mirror, which reflects the Tracey Ullman shorts. They are repulsed by the image.
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Then the pointless invasion into the DMV was really funny too;
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Lester and Eliza's death scene.
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Kent Brockman reporting is always good;
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As for how Lester and Eliza died. After the dome gets put over the city, the whole town panics and riots. Soon, Lester and Eliza declare they found the perfect solution how to escape the dome but before they can tell, they get trampled by Stampy the elephant.
Bu then that reminds me of another problem. Mr. Burns only gets one proper scene in the movie (plus the one during the credits).
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They will probably end up on an anniversary edition or maybe when they release something else such as the full series or something.
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wow sounds like we ended up missing out on simpsonized GWB. I can understand why some of these were cut some of them look kind of terrible, and well if we got the Patty and Selma Nude scene this film would have gotten an R rating
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I think you can pull that off and be big at the same time. Action and chaos scenes within the dome would have added alot more emotion and bigness than the stuff at Alaska (which even that, I'd be fine with if they just made it shorter. I think it wasted too much time to get to more important things.)
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And loads of other stuff we don't know about. I think that sounds like some really great stuff.
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Talk show shoot out: After leaving Homer in Alaska, instead of going to Seattle, the rest of the family went to New York. There were scenes at Time Square aswell. Marge, Bart, Lisa and Maggie go on the talk show The View to tell the world about the government's plot to destroy Springfield. Russ Cargill surprises them, he is the guest star and him and his EPA team come in with machine guns. Then they start having a fight with Joy Behar.
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I did still enjoy the movie for what it was. It came along when the show was past its prime and sure, it could've been better, but it was cool to see it finally happen and catch it at the cinema. There have been worse episodes of the show, and far worse movies that I've ended up watching.
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Mummy chase scene: Russ Cargill had an epic action scene with the Simpsons family after they escaped the dome. They wound up on a truck with Egyptian antiquities where they began setting mummies on fire and throwing them on the road to slow down EPA.
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I hope if they ever do make another movie, the secondary characters and Springfield are looked at more. So many iconic locations and great characters got so little love in the film. Even Burns and Smithers sat in the sideline.
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At the end of the film, after Homer and Bart return on the motorcycle and the town is cheering, Grampa was to come up to Homer and say "I never thought I would say these words, but... my son..."
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And loads of other stuff we don't know about. I think that sounds like some really great stuff.
The thing is, majority of the deleted scenes were extremly meta. There even was a scene with Lionel Hutz, using audio from a deleted scene from "$pringfield".
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There was loads of stuff going on in the background like the old guy beating up Bumblebee man, Otto breaking into the Hardware store, and Rev. Lovejoy and Rabbi Krustofski preparing to fight;
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Burns shoulda got at least one more scene. Just one to explain why he cut off the electricity to the town.
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I'd love to see all of the deleted material from the movie that wasn't on the DVD/Blu-ray (the scenes [MENTION=53378]Monty[/MENTION] mentioned above seem fun) but yeah, I don't think it's likely to happen despite trying to be positive about it. It would have been perfect to re-release the film last year on it's 10th anniversary with all the remaining unused material but all we got was those two script pages. What a rip.
The lake mutation took a larger toll on Springfield. In the actual film it almost seems like they were sealed under the dome for nothing, but in this version, we would have seen a wider range of mutated animals and them attacking the Springfieldians.
Personally I think that Disney would be looking to wrap up The Simpsons in the next few years or so, and after that, the Simpsons team can concentrate fully on making a great movie to finish off the series for good.
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Marge or Homer at the Kwik-E-Mart. To give Apu a few more lines and to actually have a Kwik-E-Mart scene. Plus a Simpson talking to Apu at checkout is somewhat iconic.
There's quite a big possibility the cut stuff is better than majority of the actual film, since they removed alot of the meta stuff to make it appeal to audiences who aren't familiar with The Simpsons.
I love the movie and it's always fun to watch as you see a character you didn't expect in the background. However, I wish Brockman's reports stayed if only to give lines to Edna and Otto and to have more Apu, in addition to the Patty and Selma scenes. I mean, they are part of the Simpsons family. They deserve some type of line.
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I guess it comes down to the choice of having The Simpsons being run out of town and fleeing to Alaska, rather than keeping the story within Springfield and by extension, the dome. If they'd avoided the plot point of "everyone turns on the Simpson family" (which is one I've admittedly never been too fond of) and just had the town band together against the EPA, they could've utilised the entire town a little better. Certainly, more supporting characters and familiar locations could've had a bigger role.
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The quality of the deleted scenes isn't surprising. Even going back to the DVD sets for the classic era and watching the deleted scenes, apart from a couple of good scenes, or amusing bits trimmed off scenes that did make the cut, I feel like a lot of them were deleted for a reason. If nothing else, some of them just took away from the punchlines and humour of the scenes that made the cut, by making them run a little long.
During the mob scene, mistaking him for Homer, the people of Springfield hang Peter Griffin from Family Guy. Someone yells "We got the wrong guy!"
...which is really stupid considering it's The Simpsons Movie. This was something fans have been waiting for ages, so it should have been made for the fans only. Shame, really. It would have been a box office hit, no matter what.
And anyway, it might just annoy them enough to take notice of it. That's always a plus right?
Professional Teleporter
Lisa asks Erin Brockovitch for advice after the townspeople fail to listen to her. Brockovitch tells Lisa to "give it up."
Junior Camper
To be honest, I feel like the film isn't epic enough.
One thing I do recall from the commentary that wasn't mentioned here was an extended scene of the mob raiding and stealing all of the furnishings in Burns Manor. The only part that made it was the little scene during the credits of the aftermath.
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Comic Book Guy refers to it as "Worst movie ever."
I can understand why they cut the fifth scene. It sorta breaks the rhythm of the movie again , and I don't think I like the idea of the townsfolk dead, since this film is canon. Then again, the dystopia and utopia joke was funny.
CousinMerl
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